With the Ryder Cup about to kickoff tomorrow, we chatted about the storylines (mainly Tiger) in our daily e-mail chain. It all started with this Gene Wojciechowski article.
Dyslecix: (Without reading it) Wild guess, the US team gets thoroughly trounced this weekend, and Tiger breaks even at 2-2 in his matchups sitting out a best ball or alternate shot round.
Cali4Dre: More along the lines of how much more Tiger needs this Ryder Cup than in the past… And how much getting a win would mean, how he can use it to repair his image, how he can mentor the 5 rookies, etc.
Chappy: I thought it was interesting watching Tiger’s interviews yesterday. I agree though Woods needs the Ryder Cup more than it needs him… And I agree with you Tony, the US team is going to get owned… I think the course favors the Euros… Aren’t there a bunch of hazards there that make the longer hitters club down right?
Dyslecix: I’m not really interested in individual story lines with the Ryder Cup, by Sunday when the single matches are going on, and the crowds are going crazy it’s more of a team story to me as they battle….It certainly didn’t miss a beat without Tiger in 08’ and was just as interesting to me at least.
I just read that despite what Monty said, the changes off the fairway to the course are pretty noticeable. It’s playing a lot like a US Open course with thick nasty rough.
Chappy: Yeah, I read that they were going to have the rough around 3 ½ inches, brutal… Oh and I disagree that this event alone would change Tiger’s image. I think winning Majors is the only way Tiger repairs that image…
Dyslecix: Nice little Monthly special…and predictable with Bubba, Phil, Tiger and crew and there wayward tee game.
Damm this is gonna be fun to watch.
How about just winning on the Tour again for starters?
Cali4Dre: I think that was Wojo’s point, not winning all year is weird for Tiger, this is his last chance since he usually doesn’t play in the Fall Series.
Dyslecix: Wasn’t Wojo a big Tiger supporter in the past?
Cali4Dre: Who wasn’t?
Chappy: I wasn’t 🙂
Dyslecix: Well at first everybody was on his side sure, but as he got older there was the crew of writers that were haters….Mainly the Lefty group, and the other group who thought he swore and cusses too much, the “gives the image of golf a bad name” writers.
Cali4Dre: Sure you weren’t, everyone loves a winner. There does appear to be water on half the holes, and I believe the woods are in play on just about every hole looking at the pictures…
Dyslecix: It’s built along a river, and is amazingly incorporated in the country side. Visually it looks awesome in pics, should be fun to see it live on TV.
Chappy: Ok, I was on his side up until around 2002 or 2003, then I started rooting against him. He just rubbed me the wrong way, I never liked how robotic he was, he didn’t even seem human. It’s hard for me to like guys that don’t seem human at all…
Cali4Dre: I’ll admit, I only rooted against Tiger because I prefer to root for the underdog or no-namer, but who couldn’t be a fan of how Tiger dominated??
Dyslecix: You guys were a real minority…
Chappy: Totally, I was a fan of his game, and didn’t give a crap about how he acted on the course, but when he cussed and cried I was reveling in it. I guess just like MJ and Kobe, I just hate the best, and like to root against them. Not to say I don’t enjoy watching them, but still root for the underdog like dre…
Dyslecix: New article on the pairings.
Cali4Dre: Interesting… I think Pavin might be one of the bets mental players in terms of strategy in the game of golf because he has had to be since he wasn’t exactly the most physically gifted. I think he’ll do just fan on the strategy parts… what do you guys think?
Dyslecix: I agree…Maybe he doesn’t have to with the “Pod” strategy because his players and pairings are developing despite it. Anyways, Pavin won’t get out “coached” by Monty in any way. This comes down to talent straight up I think.
Cali4Dre: It’s amazing how balanced the team is in terms of distance and accuracy, it’s almost too easy to make pairings that way…
Chappy:I don’t think it matters what the pairings are, the US is going to lose…
September 29th, 2010 at 10:31 pm
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September 30th, 2010 at 7:36 am
I know that the captain’s choice are discretionary but how the hell can Pavin only have one player on this US team with a winning Ryder Cup record ? It’s insane and stupid to say the least !
The Europeans won’t be complacent but neither do I expect them to literally speed to a win as it could be far closer than one would expect.
tophatal … 🙂
September 30th, 2010 at 9:07 am
Ha, I noticed that too. We don’t have much experience at all really, so not having a bunch of guys with good Ryder Cup track records isn’t that big of a shock. I hope it’s close, but I feel like it’s going to be Europe’s year to take back the title.
September 30th, 2010 at 9:42 am
The problem is on the PGA Tour , things such as foursomes and matchplay isn’t part of the Tour format . On the European Tour you have matchplay and then during their ‘silly season’ (post tour ) there are one or two formatted tourney’s that have such a format.
Montgomerie and Pavin are good enough captains but a great deal will rest on the players. As for Woods he’d be better bring his A game or
else! Let’s just say all the excuses in the world can’t hide the fact that he’s been using the wrong ‘iron’ to solve his problems both on and off the course.
September 30th, 2010 at 9:24 am
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October 4th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Oh well, we tried.
October 4th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
It was a valiant effort, and a lot closer than we expected!
October 5th, 2010 at 10:51 am
The singles’ competition isn’t as close as the figures seem to reflect. Mainly because once Monty knew what he was within striking distance having garnered double digit points way before the US team he merely knew that the US had a hard task against them. Simply look at the points won through the first six matches after the foursomes were over ?
February 8th, 2011 at 8:43 am
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